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	<title>Comments on: Zend Framework updated to 1.5.1</title>
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	<description>Aubrey Kilian explains, rants and raves</description>
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		<title>By: aubrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>aubrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s why I mentioned the use-what-you-want-only architecture of ZF in the first place.  :)  I guess I was just too lazy to implement Zend_Form for the few forms that I had, just for the sake of using it, after I already did my own thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why I mentioned the use-what-you-want-only architecture of ZF in the first place.  <img src='http://www.dociletree.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I guess I was just too lazy to implement Zend_Form for the few forms that I had, just for the sake of using it, after I already did my own thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Wil Sinclair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wil Sinclair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to toot our own collective horn, but that&#039;s the great thing about the use-at-will architecture. You might want to try adding or refactoring forms incrementally using Zend_Form. In fact, Zend_Form uses Zend_Validate and Zend_Filter, so you shouldn&#039;t have to change your existing rules if you&#039;re already using these components.
Best of luck whatever direction you go in.

,Wil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to toot our own collective horn, but that&#8217;s the great thing about the use-at-will architecture. You might want to try adding or refactoring forms incrementally using Zend_Form. In fact, Zend_Form uses Zend_Validate and Zend_Filter, so you shouldn&#8217;t have to change your existing rules if you&#8217;re already using these components.<br />
Best of luck whatever direction you go in.</p>
<p>,Wil</p>
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		<title>By: aubrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>aubrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I wouldn&#039;t say they&#039;re hard to use, it&#039;s just some things require too much work to make it work.  Zend_Form, for instance, came along after I already created my own form creation and validation classes, and to replace my classes with Zend_Form&#039;s for the pure sake of using Zend_Form was going to be too much effort. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I wouldn&#8217;t say they&#8217;re hard to use, it&#8217;s just some things require too much work to make it work.  Zend_Form, for instance, came along after I already created my own form creation and validation classes, and to replace my classes with Zend_Form&#8217;s for the pure sake of using Zend_Form was going to be too much effort. <img src='http://www.dociletree.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wil Sinclair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wil Sinclair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, I don&#039;t understand this sentence: &quot;I find at times, itâ€™s great in what it achieves and how easy it is to do certain things, but other times, like the fantastic addition of the Zend_Form classes, where things are just too much of an effort to have to jump through the hoops required.&quot;
Do you mean there are things in ZF that are hard to use? If so, could you please let me know. Thanks.

,Wil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, I don&#8217;t understand this sentence: &#8220;I find at times, itâ€™s great in what it achieves and how easy it is to do certain things, but other times, like the fantastic addition of the Zend_Form classes, where things are just too much of an effort to have to jump through the hoops required.&#8221;<br />
Do you mean there are things in ZF that are hard to use? If so, could you please let me know. Thanks.</p>
<p>,Wil</p>
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